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  • ronhira
    01-13 08:53 PM
    This will only increat outsourcing and actually hurt US economy and jobs...too bad that "blinded" politicians do not recognize this.

    they r blinded....... remember..... but they will recognize..... when most of the jobs are outsourced....





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  • delax
    07-29 12:53 PM
    I agree with this comment. Starting Oct, EB2-Ind is likely to retrogress to 03/2003 to 06/2003.

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    Not a legal advice.

    I doubt it. My sense is that USCIS has already processed most of EB2-I cases until early 2004 - based on approval trend seen on IV, Murthy Forum, and a ton of personal friends. If it goes back it may go back to Fall 2004 time frame.





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  • anai
    06-16 11:47 AM
    There's two themes in this thread that are interesting.

    1. A couple of members advanced the argument that retrogression is good since it weeds out the supposedly undeserving. Here's a startling quote:

    ...In summary, this retrogression is good in a way....

    2. The question of luck.

    I would like to share our story, because it touches on both these themes: I have two US graduate degrees; so does my wife. We've paid over 100K in federal income taxes in each of the past several years and I'm now a partner at my firm; the idea that folks are stuck in retrogression because they are undereducated low-cost workers is not realistic. And there are many cases similar to ours (some of which I read about on IV). We are stuck in retrogression because we have no answer to the country-quota bottleneck.

    So, sure, retreogression may provide perverse pleasure to a select few greencard holders, but the inconvenience that retrogression causes most of us does not serve a greater Darwinian good.

    What of luck? While luck has put us in retrogression, it has favored us in many ways --- we have a great family, a lovely home, and a bunch of good friends. I am sure all of us have seen similar plus sides of luck. But luck is stubborn when it comes to the greencard: when the window opened up last year, many folks with PD 2006 were approved, while many like us with older PD were left waiting. Luck is a strange animal -- it lets you see the map of the world in your handheld, but won't let you travel freely because of retrogression.

    There's this story about luck and how one can get around it in some cases. It is not very relevant here, but here's the story: A wise man came to a village and observed a family living in great poverty. All the family had was a cow and a sack of grain. They would work very hard, but their net worth never rose beyond the "cow + sack of grain" level. The wise man, being wise, figured out what's going on. He asked the family to give away the cow and have a party with whatever grain they had. The family initially thought this advice was daft, but eventually complied out of respect for the wise man. The night after they had squandered everything, Brahma could be seen quietly bringing the family another cow and a sack of grain. What the wise man had figured out was that this level of net worth was preordained for that family -- whether they work hard or party. Not a great story to tell your kids to teach them about hard work; but provides an alternate perspective when you're stuck in line.





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  • vine93
    01-14 01:03 PM
    What I understood

    If you are on H1 and is validity more than one year. Keep continuing. Once expiration is withing 6 month , start finding the direct vendor. Make sure you start the process early. So that even if it rejected you have time to jump to direct vendor. My two freinds got victims of this rule recently this week only .Their transfer was rejected for this reason , Now they got the offer from Direct vendor , H1 trasnfer is in process . EAD should be unaffected by this memo.

    There is no doubt Small Desi co. given fair chance to all kinds of people from remote villages. Then again they took unfair advantages too. Its time to wrap up their business now.

    Situation is alarming indeed.



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  • gg_ny
    02-13 08:03 AM
    im willing to pay 1000's of dollars in lawyer's fees..

    this im intersted in more than sending letters.

    pls explore class action suit.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/11/AR2008021103132.html





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  • BharatPremi
    05-19 09:33 PM
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  • kondur_007
    07-22 02:20 PM
    for EB3 - I guess it is good that they are not allowing concurrent /premium 140 filing ..am I right ? because if they make EB2 current and they cannot use up the visas then they would make EB3-ww available ? wishfull thinking ..but hope that it works / happens that way

    Yes, that is a wishful thinking.

    The issue for EB3 is this:
    There is already a big backlog of EB2 cases, and unless EB2 numbers overflow to EB3, it will not advance to any appreciable extent. (also the number of filers in EB3 is higher than in EB2: including large numbers in EB3 ROW--not just highly subscribed countries).
    It would be anybody's guess when EB3 will move; but my guess is: not for next 2-3 years and may be longer (I dont mean to offend anyone, this is just my guess) unless there is a change in law (likely to happen with new president).

    If I were EB3 today, this is what I would do: Try to get EB2. (and I do realize that it is very expensive, time consuming and merely impossible for many EB3). When I mentioned this in one of my previous posts, I got an angry reply "then EB2 will become like EB3"....BUT THIS JUST SOMETHING FROM THE STAND POINT OF SOMEONE IN EB3....remember, i dont want people ahead of me in line either (I am EB2 and people switching from EB3 to EB2 with older priority dates will only delay MY GC; this is just an opinion from the stand point of EB3).

    If you are EB3 (and PD is not VERY old), and if you can not switch to EB2; sit back and relax...be happy with your EAD and AP and it is only a matter of time (I know, it is easy to say and I really do not mean to offend anyone here, but that is the reality...).

    Good luck to everyone...





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  • redcard
    09-04 11:13 AM
    Wow!!! this is just crazy>>>

    Over 100 die after YSR's death, son appeals for calm- Hindustan Times (http://www.hindustantimes.com/Over-100-die-after-YSR-s-death-son-appeals-for-calm/H1-Article3-450319.aspx)


    As many as 122 people across Andhra Pradesh reportedly died of shock or committed suicide after the death of their chief minister YS Rajasekhara Reddy, prompting his MP son YS Jaganmohan Reddy to appeal to the people to be stoic and brave.

    "I appeal to all of you to be stoic and brave in this hour of tragedy. He (YSR) wanted to see a smile on the faces of all and if you resort to such things (suicide) this will hurt him," said Jaganmohan, trying hard to control his tears.

    "He used to smile even in difficult times and I am sure he is still smiling. I request you to follow his principle and not to commit suicide as this will not give him peace," said Jaganmohan, who was elected to the Lok Sabha from Kadapa in the April-May elections and is being seen by many as the next chief minister.

    The appeal before the camera was telecast on all Telugu television channels.

    Television channels estimated that 122 people died of shock on hearing the news of their leader's death in a horrific air crash on Thursday, or committed suicide unable to bear the loss. Most of those who died of shock were keenly following TV news channels ever since his chopper went missing early on Wednesday and then received the news of his death on Thursday.

    NTV, a Telugu channel, reported that 122 people have died since Thursday morning when YSR's body was found. It said 99 people died of shock while 23 committed suicide.

    However, there was no independent confirmation of this. The police here said they did not have any figures to confirm this report.

    This is the first time in the state's history that such a large number of people have died over the death of any political leader.

    YSR, as the late leader was popularly known, has surpassed in death the popularity of actor and Telugu Desam Party (TDP) founder NT Rama Rao who died in 1996.

    A large number of those who died of shock included young supporters of YSR and the beneficiaries of the various welfare schemes launched by him in the last five years.

    The deaths were reported from 19 out of 23 districts in the state.

    In the coastal district of West Godavari, six people died of shock and four committed suicide.

    "YSR dedicated his life to people, I am dedicating my life to him," a youth wrote in his suicide note before consuming pesticide.

    A physically handicapped couple, who were getting monthly pension under a welfare scheme, attempted suicide by jumping into the Godavari river but were saved by fishermen.

    In Hyderabad, 42-year-old Yadgiri died of shock while watching news of YSR's death on television. M Srinivas, 30, another admirer of the chief minister suffered a cardiac arrest.

    The charred bodies of YSR and four others were found on Thursday morning in the Nallamala forest in Kurnool district, almost 24 hours after their helicopter went missing.



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  • sanjay
    03-31 10:48 AM
    Dude, I respect your view....but I dont think I have the apetite or heart to support or vote some one who has the blood of 2000 innocents in his hand. The Supreme court rightly called him "the modern day Nero". I think we Indians can do better than the Modi's, Tytlers and Shahnawaz's of this world.

    Then to whom would you support? Tell me one political party which is not involved in either mass riots or corruption or deceit or governance failures etc etc etc.

    Yes, people can say that Gujarat riots happened when Modi was at helm. But, don't you see why it happened. It was an aftermath of a train was burned and hundreds innocent lives had lost. I don't think any government would have controlled the anger after that incident. That was bound to happen.





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  • senthil1
    02-13 09:11 AM
    I think unused other country quota is used for oversubscribed countries like India and china in the last quarter. If that is true then even removing country quota will not make much difference for Eb3. Now waiting time is 7 years. It will be 5 years for all the countries. When they remove country quota persons from countries like Europe may lose interest in applying gc as they may think is not worth for them to apply and wait 5 years or more as there is not much difference in lifestyle between US and Europe. I doubt US will remove country cap. But we never know as world changes fast nowadays.Anyhow country quota is not correct and it is similar to reservation in India. If reservation concept is correct then country quota is correct as every country in world get benefit.


    Ethnicity has nothing to do with skill level. Consider this also, if no other countries come close to the 7% limit, but India and China are maxed out. Guess who loses just because of an arbitrary limit? Guess where those unused greencards go?

    They go to a pile of greencards, left unused and wasted. Wash, rinse, repeat the same cycle year on year. June 07 will be a looooooong way away (if you are from a severely retrogressed country), don't kid yourself.

    btw... i was agreeing with abhijitp.



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  • garybanz
    12-14 04:33 PM
    I know what I am about to say will trigger a lot of reaction and some resentment, but it has to be said on behalf of those who are not Indian. I think the per country limit is to ensure that people of all nationalities and races have an equal opportunity to obtain a green card and to ensure that no one nationality, group, or even sector (i.e. IT) monopolizes the so few visas that are available. In fact, in the visa lottery, countries become excluded when the number of immigrants from them reach a certain point, so we are lucky they do not do that in the Employment-based system!

    I think that by wanting to remove the per country limit so more Indians can avail of the green card quota is both asking for "special treatment" and a slap in the face for all the non-Indian IV members. The more I read the threads on this site, the more I feel that this organization is geared just to one ethnic group. I am sure that Indians probably make up the majority of members, but the founders of IV (I hope) did not want this organization to become one-sided! Please be considerate of ALL members and try to come up with suggestions that would benefit ALL members!!!:mad:

    It's not a question of majority or minority. It's a question of what is fair and what is not (from each person's point of view). An employee joined in my company, 2 years Jr to me, he is learning most of his work from me, he applied for GC much after me....but guess what he already got it and I am stuck in the limbo! Would you like it if the tables were turned?





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  • hiralal
    06-01 07:28 PM
    ss benefits when we retire is such a long way away ..who knows what the situation will be that time ..US just needs a law change and ss benefits can be denied at that time ,,,so it makes more sense to discuss and act on recapture rather than waste time on something that will occur is 2025 or later ..just a thought



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  • crazyghoda
    05-29 01:25 PM
    software engineers now coming to US to Religious workers..

    Maybe the temples and other places of worship need software to manage the huge donations all of us are making to God to make the dates move. :D

    Just a joke folks, dont get worked up.





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  • masterji
    09-24 12:37 AM
    By Septemebre 2010, EB3-india wll be in the mid of 2002.
    Do you think EB-2 India will cross 2005 by Sept. 2010? Thanks.



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  • harikris
    05-30 11:56 PM
    Belmontboy ..Thanks for the same ..as I said earlier any campaign should highlight the positive aspects of legal immigration ..fighting over EB1 misuse is not going to help. I am a prospective home buyer and in the last few months, I met 8 buyer / seller agents ..they are literally sweating for any business ...at the very least let us show the positive contribution that immigrants have for the housing and other related economy (which is massive in terms of $$$$$). I am sure everyone will agree that this is better than fighting over EB1 misuse and fighting amongst ourselves

    1. If there are half a million people stuck in the immigration system, atleast half of them would be Mr. Hiralal-types whose buying potential could be between 150K$ to 250K$. That's an average of 50 Billion $s

    2. If Mr. Hiralal-types bought a house today, that would dry out the foreclosure inventories for precisely one month. If all the EB immigrants were to buy a home, that would stem help for two months at the current supply rate of homes piling to the inventory.

    How would the policy-makers look at these numbers?

    Let's keep Hiralal's point as one of the several reasons for pushing for reform. But, the broader perspective is to reform the way the Govt. processes immigrant application. We should strive for permanent solutions - removing of country quota and make it true capitalist nature - let supply and demand dictate who can get in and how many can get in. If diversity is the reasoning for country quota, then India should be given 25 times 7 which is 175% because we are 25 counties put in one.

    Economic situations and foreclosures are all fleeting effects. While we can leverage on these facts our argument for reform should not be based on variants.





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  • mariusp
    03-28 12:52 PM
    Sure http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20061800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2006/06-1248.htm

    I spoke to two immigration attorneys about how this may affect pending I-140 cases with the USCIS and this is the reply I received:

    Response 1:

    I am aware of the proposed rule (and the DOL link you sent me). But this applies only to pending labor certification applications and to approved labor certification applications not yet filed with USCIS. Neither one of these situations applies in your case. Of course the elimination of substitution is a proposed rule only and no one can tell exactly if and when and how the final rule will come out.


    Response 2:

    Highly unlikely that this change would affect a case that was already filed.


    Just to be safe I will request to convert to PP.



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  • grupak
    02-15 03:41 PM
    Excellent point brother!

    Talking about diversity, those not familiar should take a look at an Indian currency note.

    Maybe someone can scan and post one, I don't have any Indian note with me. You will see around 20+ languages on it. You can tell its different languages because they use different script unlike say German and French (except for the accents/umlaut). Actually the number of languages are much more than shown on the notes. For whatever reason AFAIK only languages with distinct script are classified as languages in India, others are called dialects. These dialects are actually languages because they are not dialects of anything (For example in this definition, lot of European languages will be classified as a single language because they use Latin script).

    The point is unlike what outsider might think there is as much if not more cultural, ethnic, linguistic differences between a Gujarati and a Tamil Indian as between a German and a Portuguese European.

    So how much favor I will carry with a Malayali (no disrespect to anyone from Kerala) is debatable.





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  • hazishak
    02-15 10:52 PM
    America is about freedom and liberty and is a law abiding country. Country caps is discrimination with people of two countries which have almost half of the population in the world. I am not saying increase visas for India or China. I am only saying increase the total number of visas and then make the system FIFO so that every skilled person in this world have same access to immigration.

    There is rules in every where in our daily life isn't there? You cant not sucide even if you want to.





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  • hebbar77
    09-03 11:26 AM
    after death, for people to say good stuff, one needs to be good during life!





    sk2006
    08-15 04:16 PM
    Why so much ruckus for SRK ?. After all he is a actor in India. So many actors are having connections with Dawood Ibrahim. So , nothing wrong for extra questioning.


    But Indian immigration will not do such things to foreign delegates. They treat them like gods.Everything will be bypassed.

    This is the difference between us and US

    Agreed. Makes sense.





    snram4
    01-13 02:52 PM
    If the law is followed in the enforcement then that is fine. Integrity of H1b program will be maintained. If arbitary and against the law then that should not be followed.

    I just heard from attorney there are lot of debate going on in AILA and they are trying to stop this memo from being implemented...they are the one going to lose more business then the body shops....



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